Comments on: The Price of Political Stubborn http://www.middleastpost.com/796/price-political-stubborn/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=price-political-stubborn Discuss And Analyze Middle East Political Issues Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:54:54 +0000 hourly 1 By: Rashid http://www.middleastpost.com/796/price-political-stubborn/comment-page-1/#comment-1007 Rashid Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:13:06 +0000 http://www.middleastpost.com/?p=796#comment-1007 Brave..... I believe you do have access to CNN.. In case you not sure...YES it is an americam TV station.... Please watch them and try to understand for yourself as to who broke the cease fire in November since you did not believe me when i pointed it out to you. Furthermore, in case your democratic government is witholding this information from you. A member of congress has demanded from the Bush Administration to explain why Israel has been allowed to violate the US Law in the use of the weapons provided by the USA. Since this administration is on its way out, guess what? The Obama administration will be investigating this. Remember, I have warned you that changes are afoot and you know what I am looking forward to? The fact that you will become a more informed person and realise the dis service your democratic government has afforded you. Media censorship has no place in a true democracy......agree or disagree BRAVE? Brave…..
I believe you do have access to CNN.. In case you not sure…YES it is an americam TV station….
Please watch them and try to understand for yourself as to who broke the cease fire in November since you did not believe me when i pointed it out to you. Furthermore, in case your democratic government is witholding this information from you. A member of congress has demanded from the Bush Administration to explain why Israel has been allowed to violate the US Law in the use of the weapons provided by the USA. Since this administration is on its way out, guess what? The Obama administration will be investigating this. Remember, I have warned you that changes are afoot and you know what I am looking forward to? The fact that you will become a more informed person and realise the dis service your democratic government has afforded you. Media censorship has no place in a true democracy……agree or disagree BRAVE?

]]> By: Hakam Awad http://www.middleastpost.com/796/price-political-stubborn/comment-page-1/#comment-1004 Hakam Awad Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:44:20 +0000 http://www.middleastpost.com/?p=796#comment-1004 First of all zyad Israel doesnt negotiate for end this struggle, israel negotiates to cool down the situation and Oslo Agreement is the best example. Israel negotiates when it feels that the other side is undefeatable and i bet you it will negotiate the legal Hamas Government sooner or later and under Hamas conditions. Brave i can see you're an exremist israeli soldier, i want to tell you that Israel is not ligtimate Israel should fullfill uited nations calls all over th history Israel is the most terrorist country all over th world... israel negotiated hezbollah to get back 2 DEAD SOLDIERS not war captured soldiers and i think it will negotiate Hamas to get back the dead gilad shalit thanks First of all zyad Israel doesnt negotiate for end this struggle, israel negotiates to cool down the situation and Oslo Agreement is the best example. Israel negotiates when it feels that the other side is undefeatable and i bet you it will negotiate the legal Hamas Government sooner or later and under Hamas conditions.

Brave i can see you’re an exremist israeli soldier, i want to tell you that Israel is not ligtimate Israel should fullfill uited nations calls all over th history Israel is the most terrorist country all over th world… israel negotiated hezbollah to get back 2 DEAD SOLDIERS not war captured soldiers and i think it will negotiate Hamas to get back the dead gilad shalit
thanks

]]> By: Marcos Méndez http://www.middleastpost.com/796/price-political-stubborn/comment-page-1/#comment-987 Marcos Méndez Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:46:19 +0000 http://www.middleastpost.com/?p=796#comment-987 Ziad Khalil Abu Zayyad, Give your comment to request an european diplomatic action in Middle East. In Spanish: Ziad Khalil Abu Zayyad, secunda la iniciativa de los europeos por la paz en Oriente Próximo. http://lacomunidad.elpais.com/periodismo-global <abbr><em>Marcos Méndez´s last blog post..<a href="http://lacomunidad.elpais.com/periodismo-global/2009/1/7/llamamiento-europa-la-comunidad-elpais" rel="nofollow">Llamamiento a Europa de La Comunidad ELPAÍS</a></em></abbr> Ziad Khalil Abu Zayyad, Give your comment to request an european diplomatic action in Middle East.
In Spanish: Ziad Khalil Abu Zayyad, secunda la iniciativa de los europeos por la paz en Oriente Próximo.
http://lacomunidad.elpais.com/periodismo-global

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]]> By: BraveJeWorld http://www.middleastpost.com/796/price-political-stubborn/comment-page-1/#comment-974 BraveJeWorld Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:05:57 +0000 http://www.middleastpost.com/?p=796#comment-974 I understand your point and agree that it is certainly worth trying. Unfortunately many efforts were made and negotiations were encouraged by Egypt and Israel but they were refused. This was a mistake on Hamas's part and they did not expect Israel to attack. This is something that even Hamas's most senior officials (Khaled Mashaal) condemn those in Gaza (Ismail Haniyeh) are arguing about. <abbr><em>BraveJeWorld´s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/ufZh/~3/503222533/online-terrorism-war-20.html" rel="nofollow">Online Terrorism - War 2.0</a></em></abbr> I understand your point and agree that it is certainly worth trying.
Unfortunately many efforts were made and negotiations were encouraged by Egypt and Israel but they were refused. This was a mistake on Hamas’s part and they did not expect Israel to attack. This is something that even Hamas’s most senior officials (Khaled Mashaal) condemn those in Gaza (Ismail Haniyeh) are arguing about.

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]]> By: Ziad Khalil Abu Zayyad http://www.middleastpost.com/796/price-political-stubborn/comment-page-1/#comment-971 Ziad Khalil Abu Zayyad Mon, 05 Jan 2009 10:44:16 +0000 http://www.middleastpost.com/?p=796#comment-971 Brave I agree with you that Israel did negotiate with Hezbollah but the situation was different because it was negotiations on war prisoners and not negotiations to seek a political solution for a conflict. The message that i want to send through this post is that efforts were not made enough to try to bring movements like Hamas into negotiations to mind violence. The belief that Israel and the United States adopted was to mind negotiating with organizations like hamas in order to prevent them from gaining legitimacy. Tzipi Levni stated this a few days ago. If Israel tried to include Hamas in any negotiations about the conflict since its first day work in the Palestinian government instead of boycotting it and putting a siege on it, the results may differ. Now this is not as easy as it appears but it worth trying. Ira was convince after negotiations, Fatah changed, and many other organizations. But remember that i mean negotiations with results and not negotiations to gain time. Brave

I agree with you that Israel did negotiate with Hezbollah but the situation was different because it was negotiations on war prisoners and not negotiations to seek a political solution for a conflict.
The message that i want to send through this post is that efforts were not made enough to try to bring movements like Hamas into negotiations to mind violence.
The belief that Israel and the United States adopted was to mind negotiating with organizations like hamas in order to prevent them from gaining legitimacy. Tzipi Levni stated this a few days ago.
If Israel tried to include Hamas in any negotiations about the conflict since its first day work in the Palestinian government instead of boycotting it and putting a siege on it, the results may differ.
Now this is not as easy as it appears but it worth trying. Ira was convince after negotiations, Fatah changed, and many other organizations. But remember that i mean negotiations with results and not negotiations to gain time.

]]> By: Rashid http://www.middleastpost.com/796/price-political-stubborn/comment-page-1/#comment-969 Rashid Mon, 05 Jan 2009 10:28:18 +0000 http://www.middleastpost.com/?p=796#comment-969 This notion of not negotiating with terrorist is an American one which Israel has been happy to adopt. Look into history. Winston Churchill and the American President at the time met with the most notorious Murderer to negotiate peace. As you rightly point out,Israel themselves negotiated with Hizbollah. The British Goverment negotiated with the IRA. History has shown that this is the sole way tp peaceful co-existence. The way to gain recognition from others is not through force, just like respect can be enforced it needs to be earned. This notion of not negotiating with terrorist is an American one which Israel has been happy to adopt.
Look into history. Winston Churchill and the American President at the time met with the most notorious Murderer to negotiate peace. As you rightly point out,Israel themselves negotiated with Hizbollah. The British Goverment negotiated with the IRA. History has shown that this is the sole way tp peaceful co-existence.
The way to gain recognition from others is not through force, just like respect can be enforced it needs to be earned.

]]> By: BraveJeWorld http://www.middleastpost.com/796/price-political-stubborn/comment-page-1/#comment-965 BraveJeWorld Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:37:12 +0000 http://www.middleastpost.com/?p=796#comment-965 The idea that Israel does not negotiate with terrorists, as this article is supposes, is not true. Israel after all did negotiate with Hizbollah, an organisation that Israel does consider to be terrorist, in order to get back the two captured IDF soldiers last year. The deal caused much heartache in Israel as the deal involved the release of one of its most notorious prisoners along with 100+ other prisoners in return for the remains of 2 dead IDF soldiers. Let it also be noted that there were no efforts made by Hamas to want to talk to Israeli officials. Assad of Syria is also known to not want to look Israeli officials in the eye despite Israeli offers to meet with him directly. <abbr><em>BraveJeWorld´s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/ufZh/~3/502596414/article-13-of-hamas-charter-only-jihad.html" rel="nofollow">Article 13 of Hamas Charter - Only Jihad is the Answer</a></em></abbr> The idea that Israel does not negotiate with terrorists, as this article is supposes, is not true. Israel after all did negotiate with Hizbollah, an organisation that Israel does consider to be terrorist, in order to get back the two captured IDF soldiers last year. The deal caused much heartache in Israel as the deal involved the release of one of its most notorious prisoners along with 100+ other prisoners in return for the remains of 2 dead IDF soldiers.

Let it also be noted that there were no efforts made by Hamas to want to talk to Israeli officials. Assad of Syria is also known to not want to look Israeli officials in the eye despite Israeli offers to meet with him directly.

BraveJeWorld´s last blog post..Article 13 of Hamas Charter – Only Jihad is the Answer

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