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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.middleastpost.com/1621/palestinian-state-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-3454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Recently spotted the following web contribution. Interesting?  Jake]

         PRETRIB  RAPTURE  POLITICS
                  
   Many are still unaware of the eccentric, 180-year-old British theory underlying the politics of American evangelicals and Christian Zionists.
   Journalist and historian Dave MacPherson has spent more than 40 years focusing on the origin and spread of what is known as the apocalyptic &quot;pretribulation rapture&quot; - the inspiration behind Hal Lindsey&#039;s bestsellers of the 1970s and Tim LaHaye&#039;s today.
   Although promoters of this endtime evacuation from earth constantly repeat their slogan that &quot;it&#039;s imminent and always has been&quot; (which critics view more as a sales pitch than a scriptural statement), it was unknown in all official theology and organized religion before 1830.
   And MacPherson&#039;s research also reveals how hostile the pretrib rapture view has been to other faiths:
   It is anti-Islam. TV preacher John Hagee has been advocating &quot;a pre-emptive military strike against Iran.&quot; (Google &quot;Roots of Warlike Christian Zionism.&quot;)
   It is anti-Jewish. MacPherson&#039;s book &quot;The Rapture Plot&quot; (see Armageddon Books etc.) exposes hypocritical anti-Jewishness in even the theory&#039;s foundation.
   It is anti-Catholic. Lindsey and C. I. Scofield are two of many leaders who claim that the final Antichrist will be a Roman Catholic. (Google &quot;Pretrib Hypocrisy.&quot;)
   It is anti-Protestant. For this reason no major Protestant denomination has ever adopted this escapist view.
   It even has some anti-evangelical aspects. The first publication promoting this novel endtime view spoke degradingly of &quot;the name by which the mixed multitude of modern Moabites love to be distinguished, - the Evangelical World.&quot; (MacPherson&#039;s &quot;Plot,&quot; p. 85)
   Despite the above, MacPherson proves that the &quot;glue&quot; that holds constantly in-fighting evangelicals together long enough to be victorious voting blocs in elections is the same &quot;fly away&quot; view. He notes that Jerry Falwell, when giving political speeches just before an election, would unfailingly state: &quot;We believe in the pretribulational rapture!&quot;
   In addition to &quot;The Rapture Plot,&quot; MacPherson&#039;s many internet articles include &quot;Famous Rapture Watchers,&quot; &quot;Pretrib Rapture Diehards,&quot; &quot;Edward Irving is Unnerving,&quot; &quot;America&#039;s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,&quot; &quot;Thomas Ice (Bloopers),&quot; &quot;Pretrib Rapture Secrecy&quot; and &quot;Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty&quot; (massive plagiarism, phony doctorates, changing of early &quot;rapture&quot; documents in order to falsely credit John Darby with this view, etc.!).
   Because of his devastating discoveries, MacPherson is now No. 1 on the &quot;hate&quot; list of pretrib rapture leaders!
   There&#039;s no question that the leading promoters of this bizarre 19th century end-of-the-world doctrine are solidly pro-Israel and necessarily anti-Palestinian. In light of recently uncovered facts about this fringe-British-invented belief which has always been riddled with dishonesty, many are wondering why it should ever have any influence on Middle East affairs.
   This Johnny-come-lately view raises millions of dollars for political agendas. Only when scholars of all faiths begin to look deeply at it and widely air its &quot;dirty linen&quot; will it cease to be a power. It is the one theological view no one needs!
   With apologies to Winston Churchill - never has so much deception been foisted on so many by so few!

[Also Google &quot;David Letterman&#039;s Hate, Etc.&quot;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Recently spotted the following web contribution. Interesting?  Jake]</p>
<p>         PRETRIB  RAPTURE  POLITICS</p>
<p>   Many are still unaware of the eccentric, 180-year-old British theory underlying the politics of American evangelicals and Christian Zionists.<br />
   Journalist and historian Dave MacPherson has spent more than 40 years focusing on the origin and spread of what is known as the apocalyptic &#8220;pretribulation rapture&#8221; &#8211; the inspiration behind Hal Lindsey&#8217;s bestsellers of the 1970s and Tim LaHaye&#8217;s today.<br />
   Although promoters of this endtime evacuation from earth constantly repeat their slogan that &#8220;it&#8217;s imminent and always has been&#8221; (which critics view more as a sales pitch than a scriptural statement), it was unknown in all official theology and organized religion before 1830.<br />
   And MacPherson&#8217;s research also reveals how hostile the pretrib rapture view has been to other faiths:<br />
   It is anti-Islam. TV preacher John Hagee has been advocating &#8220;a pre-emptive military strike against Iran.&#8221; (Google &#8220;Roots of Warlike Christian Zionism.&#8221;)<br />
   It is anti-Jewish. MacPherson&#8217;s book &#8220;The Rapture Plot&#8221; (see Armageddon Books etc.) exposes hypocritical anti-Jewishness in even the theory&#8217;s foundation.<br />
   It is anti-Catholic. Lindsey and C. I. Scofield are two of many leaders who claim that the final Antichrist will be a Roman Catholic. (Google &#8220;Pretrib Hypocrisy.&#8221;)<br />
   It is anti-Protestant. For this reason no major Protestant denomination has ever adopted this escapist view.<br />
   It even has some anti-evangelical aspects. The first publication promoting this novel endtime view spoke degradingly of &#8220;the name by which the mixed multitude of modern Moabites love to be distinguished, &#8211; the Evangelical World.&#8221; (MacPherson&#8217;s &#8220;Plot,&#8221; p. 85)<br />
   Despite the above, MacPherson proves that the &#8220;glue&#8221; that holds constantly in-fighting evangelicals together long enough to be victorious voting blocs in elections is the same &#8220;fly away&#8221; view. He notes that Jerry Falwell, when giving political speeches just before an election, would unfailingly state: &#8220;We believe in the pretribulational rapture!&#8221;<br />
   In addition to &#8220;The Rapture Plot,&#8221; MacPherson&#8217;s many internet articles include &#8220;Famous Rapture Watchers,&#8221; &#8220;Pretrib Rapture Diehards,&#8221; &#8220;Edward Irving is Unnerving,&#8221; &#8220;America&#8217;s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,&#8221; &#8220;Thomas Ice (Bloopers),&#8221; &#8220;Pretrib Rapture Secrecy&#8221; and &#8220;Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty&#8221; (massive plagiarism, phony doctorates, changing of early &#8220;rapture&#8221; documents in order to falsely credit John Darby with this view, etc.!).<br />
   Because of his devastating discoveries, MacPherson is now No. 1 on the &#8220;hate&#8221; list of pretrib rapture leaders!<br />
   There&#8217;s no question that the leading promoters of this bizarre 19th century end-of-the-world doctrine are solidly pro-Israel and necessarily anti-Palestinian. In light of recently uncovered facts about this fringe-British-invented belief which has always been riddled with dishonesty, many are wondering why it should ever have any influence on Middle East affairs.<br />
   This Johnny-come-lately view raises millions of dollars for political agendas. Only when scholars of all faiths begin to look deeply at it and widely air its &#8220;dirty linen&#8221; will it cease to be a power. It is the one theological view no one needs!<br />
   With apologies to Winston Churchill &#8211; never has so much deception been foisted on so many by so few!</p>
<p>[Also Google "David Letterman's Hate, Etc."]</p>
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		<title>By: Ziad Khalil Abu Zayyad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ziad Khalil Abu Zayyad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Neville
I agree with you about the pressure made on Abbas. To my mind if he goes back to negotiations without achieving the settlements demand he will be destroying what is left from his reputation and the negotiations and peace strategy. With all respect..this condition should have been made since Oslo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Neville<br />
I agree with you about the pressure made on Abbas. To my mind if he goes back to negotiations without achieving the settlements demand he will be destroying what is left from his reputation and the negotiations and peace strategy. With all respect..this condition should have been made since Oslo.</p>
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		<title>By: Neville Teller</title>
		<link>http://www.middleastpost.com/1621/palestinian-state-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-3235</link>
		<dc:creator>Neville Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bargaining posture, surely, in anticipation of substantive talks some time reasonably soon.  Mahmoud Abbas is under enormous pressure from all sides to come back to the negotiating table.  He has held out so far for the requirement made by Barack Obama early on in his presidency that all settlement building activity in the West Bank and East Jerusalem should cease.  But since the US administration has itself abandoned that position, Abbas is unlikely to hold out for very long.
I write at length about this in my blog (address above).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bargaining posture, surely, in anticipation of substantive talks some time reasonably soon.  Mahmoud Abbas is under enormous pressure from all sides to come back to the negotiating table.  He has held out so far for the requirement made by Barack Obama early on in his presidency that all settlement building activity in the West Bank and East Jerusalem should cease.  But since the US administration has itself abandoned that position, Abbas is unlikely to hold out for very long.<br />
I write at length about this in my blog (address above).</p>
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